2"x4" rectangular steel ladder style frame with front crush zone. Used to drool over all the different Cobra kits available when reading Kit Car magazine as a kid in the 80s. But I have aGolf R for bad weather / daily driving for the race car I want lots of drama even at 30 mph. If anything, I'll have a better view of the suspension. The BDR dealer in Tomball Tx (NW houston) James Yale owner of Radical Roadsters. The guy had to get a lawyer involved and it was eventually registered as a 1966 "replica". by xb-60. No experience with kit cars but after 15 years trying to keep things running all weekend, this seems too good to be true. New posts New media New media comments Latest activity. I spoke with James today. In today's issue of "there's always someone crazier than you", FB find of the day? Located in Maryland. Threads 79 Messages . A 'Vette is just a 'Vette. This is the ride the notorious Al Capone made famous. Somewhere in all of that discussion there is surely some good information regarding PATS, fuel pumps and steering. There is simply no room under there. I love the car and I enjoy working on cars but this is very frustrating. BIG CAM. General thing I've been told on what to look for (on the Factory five front) for a track buildis IRS and a small-block (either Coyote or SBF). You can basically find an answer to any questionthere. The Daytona Coupe kit is the direction I would go. Feels like I'm driving a supercar. 3) Good question - I'm actually building my Cobrafor track duty (IRS, 427W engine, Tremec 5-speed, Wilwood brakes with front/back bias adjustment, etc.). The cantilevered shifter feels right in a chunderheaded expedience sort of way. 1) TheFactoryFiveForum.comand FFcars.com are invaluable when it comes to information on these things. Ive decided that this something an expert should handle. YES! Premiumcarpet was laid down over the floor with carpet overlays for both the driver and passenger side. You have half a barely muffled V8 blatting at your left ear, you could probably touch the ground if you weren't worried about third degree burns on your wrist, and your view through the windshield is almost completely obscured by the reflection of the scuttle on the inside of the glass, because the scuttle is painted body color and just as shiny. 2023 Motorsport Marketing. When it comes to handling, more BMW-sourced components were installed including a full independent rear suspension with fully adjustable coil over dampers and a front suspension with coil over front struts. Posts: 1,110,018, Sitting here in the puts at NCM thoroughly enjoying the smile this c7 Grand Sport is putting on my face each and every session. The Gateway Cobra Club is the premier meeting place for fans of the Shelby American automobiles: Cobra Roadster, Daytona Coupe and GT40. #builtwithat. FFR = depends. Cross shopping a Corvette, all the work is done for you and it's comfortable and weather tight. I agree Corvettes are the easy button and provide weather protection. You can eliminate the strange shifter angle by using a mid-shift kit on a TKO. Back to an earlier response to the two aft diff bolts. If it's your dream car, do it. The World's largest The passenger side trailing arm has a bunch washers between the bushing and the trailing arm bracket. I thought it was a pressure plate issue. Sergio Feb 24, 2011 18 12K Nov 5, 2022 by coatin20 Fuel pump replacement coatin20 Oct 12, 2022 1 348 Oct 17, 2022 by postal S Vented gas cap swampfoxIV Jul 7, 2020 10 4K Rushmore area today. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. #builtwithattitide #carsw, The Superman Edition! There's very little separating an ffr from a trans am car. Third hand knowledge, but I'd avoid Superformance. Vented brakes, cooled diff, dry sump, 315/335 NT01s fit, and all with a factory warranty. Trust me, you will be scared of it. This menacing Cobra replica is slathered in a stealthy Black Magic paint topped with Magnetic Grey stripes . Its got a Ford Stroker and a TKO600 Suspension. But they look and sound awesome doing it. I wouldn't put an inexperienced driver in one, but it's a fun fast challenge for an experienced driver. Depending on the engine they weigh around 2400 lbs. Im referring to the bushings in the the sub frame not the differential cover. Industry news, Press Releases, Notifications. Have you removed the dust cover on the flange side of the axle and checked the flange bolts? A paint protection film was installed to guard the paint against any road debris. Friends who have run a race shop for more than 40 years, and who used to be a Caterham dealer (ie final assembler), are building a Daytona Coupe from theFFR kit. What's in it? It was okay but as a designer there were definitely things I didn't like about it. I love yours! The drive shaft looks like it may be at slight angle from the transmission to the differential. Quick update. A meeting place for all cobra items and information. No you can remove the cover it will pull back far enough to check the bolts. There's a story about the one Bill Cosby bought new that pretty much ends with him just saying no after one time behind the wheel . This is why I do have a lot of thumbs up to give for Factory Five. They're not just cars to stick golf clubs in and look silly, like a Rolla Royce nosed VW Beetle. 2. Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger on a BDR Cobra in the next few months. I think the hoop was under bent so it was jamming in the receiver tubes, plus the crap job sealing the hoops let water travel down there and rusted it up. What would the normal clearance be for the CV joint and the carrier? I am not sure a Daytona is a step up. I couldn't bring myself to track it. If a car makes my ears ring I won't drive it, period. This Cobra is Avis Blue with pearl white racing stripes, and it is a shining example of Backdraft's craftsmanship and superb engineering. Backdraft makes a darn good car with BMW suspension as stated above the fit and finish is not the greatest. We do stock RT4s and have access to Backdraft's in-build and landed inventory. Cobra certainly rougher around the edges than a Z06. I finally removed the rear wheels. Backdraft ones are very nice, well built, and hold value pretty well Where did you see Backdraft for $46K? The cheapest Backdraft currently on Hemming is around $76K. Advantage. Weather protection is limited or nonexistent. check out the. Gases flow through Ceramic-coated headers and exit via stainless-steel side pipes. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo . Seems your pics are not displaying in the correct orientation for others to view. JavaScript is disabled. MK4 #8900 - complete kit - Coyote, TKO600, IRS - Delivered 6/28/16 First Start 10/6/16 Go cart - 10/16/16 Build completed - 4/26/17 - 302 days to build my 302 CI Coyote Cobra - Registered and street legal 5/17/17. Many have done it and they look pretty nice. Forums. . Corvettes get attn too, but more negative than the cobra. I want to say that the suspension was E46 BMW? I think they look awesome. If anything, Ill have a better view of the suspension. IIRC he ended up trying one or two different track time toys before winding up in a Neon. Backdraft 427 ; Build: June 2022. I've never driven one so what do I know, but all of your issues (and they're real, except for the touching the road part) seem pretty fixable. I want to register an account for free right now! ive been in both the vettes and new shelbys and liked em both. Absolutely incredible way to do driving events. Some of that is the supplied parts some of that is the kit itself. Premium carpeting w/ bound edges for trunk and cockpit. The cobra is not the fastest around a track in that group but it is awesome looking and sounding. It's nice. It doesn't have the appeal of the Cobra, unless it's an OLD 'Vette. non biased Shelby Cobra related site! That said, the Factory Five suspension componentsare completely adjustable on all four corners and the chassis is track proven so you certainly have plenty of levers to mess with. I always dreamed of owning it one day ever since I had the toy replica of it a long time ago, You get your cobra yet? I was hoping to find the cause with pulling the axles snd cv joints. Checked cv joint boots for leaks. The bushings look horrible to me. The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site! All had the Roush 427 motor and were based on BMW suspension components. It was fun though! non biased Shelby Cobra related site! Anyone have a part number for these bushings? I have lost over 40% of my hearing to decades of work in industrial manufacturing, I don't have enough left to sacrifice in the name of cars. Boots seem good to me. There is a great community there, build threads if you are trying to determine what is involved in a build, and the like. Im afraid that Im going damage the boot but it looks like need to pull the axles anyway. Our NEXT GENERATION RT4 Classic Edition features a more traditional take on Roadster styling, with polished stainless steel side pipes and halibrand style wheels. Don't know why I typed Hemmings. FFR #7388 - Mk 4 Complete Kit w/ IRS, Ordered 10/21/10, Delivered 12/8/10. Not loose. Muscular 1974 Super Duty Trans Am Commands Attention, Father And Son Reflect On 1971 Alfa Romeo Spider 1300 Junior. BACKDRAFT OWNERS GROUP Group Maintained by Cashburn Gathering spot on ClubCobra for current and former owners of Backdraft Racing Roadsters. All rights reserved. #builtwithattitude #carswi, We love this candy cane! Under the bonnet is a 345 BHP 302 CID built by Ford Racing, coupled with a World Class T5 Transmission and hydraulic lifters. Club Cobra Introduction Forum (introduce yourself) 04-27-2023 12:08 AM. The BDR I sold also looked very different from the car in these videos. : For registered members this ad will NOT show, Cobra Make, Engine: BDR build #983, FRM 392. They can be built to almost any level of performance and capability. Weird Noise From Side Pipes.Search PerformedAdditional Questions, Quick Question: Brake lines for RT3 Build #496. Has anyone ever considered this idea, or done it? I too have been following this. BTW I sent better pics than the ones I posted here. Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft #1799 5.0L Gen 3 Coyote Posts: 21 Not Ranked The Factory Five Forum has an entire sub-forum dedicated to the Coyote Build. The bushings look bad to me but no one has suggested thats the cause. presumably it'll depend on who build it but I was wondering if there is any specific areas that can show the quality of the build. Took apart my seat cushions and added a 1 inch layer of medium density blue confor memory foam to :):)To all, I will be converting my 408w to EFI with a FiTech Go EFI 4 -600 system. Edit: I should point out that this car was purchased as a turn key car from Backdraft. Hyundai Elantra N: Better performance than a Civic Type R? Thanks. Well, I actually have been thinking/considering the Shelby Cobra (replica/kit car) and since my wife encouraged me to get one I am obligated to at least investigate my options. The Covette is BY FAR the better car, but I'd bet the Cobra is a whole lot more fun, even just driven normally, to ice cream and back. Ahrens-Fox. Again, appreciate all the feed back. berkeleying fast as hell though. It was a 6 month process to get a title issued for it here in Oregon. Must be a member and logged in to read posts or post in this Forum. I've been watching this thread since last year. Its not a crack. Then I drove one, a FF kit with a Ford 302 crate engine. I want to register an account for free right now! Appreciate 0 Quote 01-27-2017, 07:00 PM #24: Maynard. I had to raise the roll hoop for the guy so he could pass the broom stick test with his helmet and the hoop was sealed with approximately 6 full size cartridges of clear silicone haphazardly squirted near the holes. YES! : For registered members this ad will NOT show. YES! Digging deeper though, it looks like that's not complete, I just did a quick search earlier and didn't click deeper. It's not a direct comparison. He cannot buy a finished running car and import it into Canada. A wind deflector, Mercedes convertible style, behind the passenger compartment run between rollbar hoops should make it a little less insane inside. Especially because the car drove great the last time I drove it. Had a ridiculously loud big block Ford in it with unbaffled side pipes so I really couldn't stand to drive it long enough to get a real impression. Kirkham Cobra, CSX Cobra, Backdraft Cobra, Factory Five . p.s. Thanks again. Does it depend on the donor car, suspension set up, which engine used, etc.? Drives: Charger HC, Backdraft Cobra. Does anyone know how much clearance should I gave between the top of the sub frame / carrier? Anyone in LA area willing to enable Radwood silliness? It looks like the passenger side has shifted towards the rear of the car by 1". Genuine leather seats. 2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum. I really enjoyed the FFR build process but I ended up over-building a custom car made just for me that I didn't want to beat on. Putting a semi-gloss black coating or paint down on the dash top should help a lot with the reflection issue. 6) If pre-built - can't really go wrong with a Superformance or Backdraft. 302 with FiTech and Under Car Exhaust, Heat & A/C, Rod Top. How important is weather protection and comfort? Proof that the Ford Pinto makes a capable street machine? They seem like they would be a challenge in traffic. 1965 Backdraft Racing Cobra Price $109,995 1965 Backdraft Racing Cobra Price $114,995 Backdraft Racing Cobra s by Year 1965 Backdraft Racing Cobra. Tomorrow lll pull back the inner boot. NMNA, 99-03 Ford Mustang Cobra 8.8 IRS differential 3.27 gears and 31 spline trac loc. Stopping is provided by BMW-sourced 4-wheel power disc brakes clamped by red-painted brake calipers. My friends has a soft top and side curtains, so driving in rain he only gets a little wet. It does look like the differential shifted towards the rear car. Every time I am excited by the prospect of BMWesque handling in a gorgeous retro body with surplus power. The spinner removal tool is well worth the money. It's the most common kit car in the US by far. David Kee Toploader Transmissions Inc. Any opinions on backdrafts cobra replicas? What to look for when looking at one of these? Set it up right and you have brutal speed. we serve regional and national members with an in-depth forum and archive of vehicle information. Jul 17, 2017. Thanks for the help! The cheapest Backdraft currently on Hemming is around $76K. I notice the springs top plates aren't in the same location. p.s. Pics below. I thought the body style differences were interesting. Just to be safe. I cringe at even ascratch. This is why the FFR spec racer was made. Required a portapower and big levers. They make hooligans with unmuffled Harleys seem quiet and reserved. The whole experience went from "this is cool!" Hey guys im in the market to buy a sports car and im down to 3 cars. Someone earlier mentioned running a quieter exhaust under the car. I realized I'm not a show car person. I worked on one for a customer. New posts Search forums. Whatever, if you are going to have a measuring contest, at least get the facts straight. I had an idea to just get the complete frame and just build a new body. Wide seats allow for plenty of comfort and space, and extra leg room not an issue. In the mid 90's I built a Cobra replica from a local company called Component Craft. For an introvert like myself, I enjoy my very capable cave. BackDraft Racing --- - Club Cobra Welcome to Club Cobra! MGB/Cobra $1500. You are using an out of date browser. for the body shape and noise it makes, I don't see a problem with a 5.0 fox body conversion kit, which I think is ~$45-55k if properly built on a clean donor car. I want to register an account for free right now! Backdraft ones are very nice, well built, and hold value pretty well. After doing my research about 10 years ago, I was set on getting a Cobra built by Backdraft Racing. YES! New posts Search forums Advanced search. That said, if you are buying pre-built, from what I have seen they seem to hold their value pretty well. I have a TON of info on Factory 5 racing Cobras as well, including a pretty cool build school you can attend that gives you help with building your own car. The front end features LED headlights along with smoked LED turn signals and taillights, and black 18-inch Halibrand-style wheels sit on all four corners. Searching for the perfect car to spend your hard-earned money on can be a tough decision, but nobody can go wrong with an iconic '65 Shelby Cobra replica from Backdraft Racing. I not 100% on the torque spec but it wasnt torqued to spec. What is a good source of information to do more research around the Shelby Cobra replica/kit car? After doing my research about 10 years ago, I was set on getting a Cobra built by Backdraft Racing. p.s. They come as a rolling chassis, as opposed to FFR which is a kit. Good luck with your pick! Would you be interested in a ERA 427 cobra with a real 427 sideoiler?? Welcome to Club CobraThe world's largest non-biased Cobra site! Biggest thing I noticed was the additional legroom and the wider foot box. What's new. Everett-Morrison Motorcars -- Speak with Julie and Brett, Johnex Motorsports--Speak with Mike Tilcox, Lone Star Classics---Speak with Dennis & Steve, Midstates Cobra's---Speak with Bob Kallio, Standard Transmission and Gear speak with Jimi Guthrie, Upstate Super Replicars--Speak with Bill Connelly, Tornado Alley Cobra Club (Eastern Oklahoma). (REGISTERED USERS DO NOT SEE THIS POST/AD! I check this area often but like I said after I did this it has not failed .It has been about 2 years. YES! 3210 SW 14TH PLACEBOYNTON BEACH, FL 33426, Happy 427 day! Dont get me wrong- some guys build them and do a VERY nice job, but for me factory built was the way to go. The Backdraft is a nice car. New . Upgrading steering. Overlay carpets for drivers and passenger side. You are much more hidden in the corvette. If building your own - FF has a great community so you'll never be stuck on an island by yourself it you have any issues and plenty of guys put their buildson the track. Their build quality is on point, and the car's aesthetics are extremely similar to the original Cobra at a much lower price point than it's expensive rivals (Superformance, Kirkham, etc.) I want to register an account for free right now! Turned in too late? Mine are in the same condition. Threads: 93,379, One of which is the ability to personalize the Cobra to your taste and use. There are a range engine and transmission options available including Coyote, Ford Racing, Roush, and Iconic Racing. How fast does it go? I was driving today and applied the clutch only to have the driver's seat slider give way and fully Hi All, new owner here. Some of that is the supplied parts some of that is the kit itself. . Some of the fit and finish stuff was below par, but mechanically it was solid. AJS. Backdraft makes a darn good car with BMW suspension as stated above the fit and finish is not the greatest. No sir I havent checked to see if they are torque to specification but each bolt head is marked and all still line up with their reference marks. All for sale! All Backdraft RT3 Cobras include the following: Hand laid fiberglass body w/ strategic reinforcing. Kids with straight piped VQs bow before the king of annoyingly loud that is a "cobra". 3081 . You can get a well-built z for $30-45 that will shred the track. I'm now prepping an Exocet race chassis which has the raw fun without the expensive body. Moving the differential forward a half of an inch may give me enough clearance to stop the rubbing. fYLbZBZLiwLMuahFK1l4IG9L60kBzAOvcqOlNl4CeHeo9egj6dCQahwPQtloTQwC, stanger_mussle (Supported by GRM undergarments). He asked me to send for some pictures and had me check a few things. Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Car #1209 Roush 427R. In fact, these Cobra replicas can be special-ordered by specific color, equipment, and features. Arntz/Butler Forum (212/2011) BackDraft Racing ---(2162/25438) B & B Cobra's --- Speak with Bryan . CONNECT WITH . I'm a really big fan of the FFRs, I rode in one for about 6 hours one day (to the FFR Open House and back) with a standard 4 link suspension and found the ride to be very comfortable. Again there isnt any clicking or banging or strange noises when I drive the car. SPF roller= $42K+. If you have around $45K would you get a Shelby Cobra Factory Five or Superformance, well built C6 Z06 or a C7 Z51? But again, that was a few years back. Wow I really love this car, you guys are lucky. Media. My car started to shudder when I would take off in 1st gear about the same time I saw the scratches on the cv joint flange. Have a friend who might be wanting to sell his well prepped supercharged ffr. Its got a Ford Stroker and a TKO600 Suspension. Its pretty much impossible to tell orientation, etc,,, when zoomed in like those pics are. Okay, I left out some potentially important info. All Cobras, all the time. Their build quality is on point, and the car's aesthetics are extremely similar to the original Cobra at a much lower price point than it's expensive rivals (Superformance, Kirkham, etc.) I thought you found the problem. YES! I took another pic from different angle. Get as close to the real thing as you can (safely) afford. 2023 Motorsport Marketing. Pete. It's DuPont not Hemmings. Abarth. One of the guys in our local Cobra club has a BD. Keeping temperatures in check is an aluminum radiator equipped with thermostatically controlled electric fan. I don't know much about it and there isn't a lot of discussions on this forum about this so I was wondering if anyone can help me answer the following questions: 1. I'm in the process of building a Factory Five MKIV roadster - so take my comments with a bit of bias. iTrader: ( 2) I have a Backdraft Cobra. The grease you are seeing is coming from the cv joint they are packed full of grease I would bet that the bolts are broken or something is amiss with your cv joint. Welcome to Club Cobra! 5) If you build you will likely not get yourmoney out of it if you sell - that said good builds will go 50K-ish so its not like you will take a huge bath. Location: Washington State. The World's largest MK4 7869, gen 1 Coyote, TR-3650, 3-link . What do I need to know when looking at/considering one of these Shelby Cobra replica/kit car? The Cobra came with a 408 Stroker rated at 530 horsepower. It also won't burn your wrist when you touch the road (which you should do because why not). How much you put into a build is also very specific to what you want to do. I plan to drop the car off with James at Radical Roadsters as soon as his schedule frees up. Does this info help or muddy the water? 1. There are probably more than I noticed but here are the ones I saw: - The driver side door doesn't align as well as the passenger. 4. If so, what do you think of the performance. There are many unique features of Backdraft Cobras (and Nostalgic Motoring). Uses BMW 3 series suspension pieces, not 100% which generation, but E46 sounds right. The passenger side spring isn't square to the body like the driver's side. It took like 6 hours to remove the three bolts that held the hoop in place and move it up to the next set of mounting holes. : For registered members this ad will NOT show. https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/foru.all-and-tuning YES! Are you saying that the differential slide back causing the inner output flanges to rub the sub frame above? You are correct that what I posted is a bit more autherntic / high end. But it really depends what you want out of your car. : For registered members this ad will NOT show. No grease spatter. Backdraft Racing | Factory Five Racing Forum Backdraft Racing Filters Fuel pump replacement coatin20 Oct 12, 2022 6 626 Dec 11, 2022 by coatin20 Post Pictures of your Backdraft ! How's that for bizarre cross-shopping. ABC. Where did you see Backdraft for $46K? if you want a cool car, the cobra might get the nod - especially being a convertible as you get to see and smile at more people. 3. It makes for a very fun, and capable car (independent rear) think of an old M-roadster on a serious steroid injection with the ability to fit 305-width tires. Yes, they still use E36 suspension, rearend and brakes. The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site! and a single barrel carb?? Do you like sorting your own car to make it work? For the record, I actually liked the shifter Not sure how one would do a remote shifter, if you wanted a "traditional" shifter angle then you might be able to build a V8 T5 with a truck case so the shifter comes out a lot more forward. It this legal?" Was not a kit, fully assembled. #builtwithattitude #happyeaster #coo, Can you guess where this roadster is? Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. Why not get both? (l33t FS) GRM+ Member and MegaDork 7/16/21 9:39 p.m. The only reason I noticed the rubbing was because I always put it on my lift after taking it for a drive. Most users ever online was 3,146, 12-23-2011 at 03:07 AM. Seemed to be a nice piece of kit. Trunk carpeting was pretty poor. 1965 Backdraft Racing Cobra in Arlington, TX 1966 AC Cobra from backdraft with roush 427ci with 550hp 2. Private. Shelby Cobra kit cars, continuations or Kirkhams, or it ain't cool enough. Gathering spot on ClubCobra for current and former owners of Backdraft Racing Roadsters. Club Cobra . It may not display this or other websites correctly. But it seems like everyone has these 2 cars in town. Raced two cobras and puttered around a Daytona, all ffr. Our NEXT GENERATION RT4B BLACK EDITION features a traditional Roadster build, with our amped up, custom Black Out Package, to add maximum wow factor. News, Rumors and Announcements. Also, I noticed yesterday that there was grease splatter above each drive shaft yoke. I have seen a few at C&C and although they are very cool and air seems like an option they appear to give up a LOT of visibility compared to the open Cobra. AC. How driving instruction can make you faster on track. View All Members Showing 10 of 215 Member (s) socalliving Bob K HBW mattbrowne hauss Steve Gallegos Cashburn Quentin Z SGwick jace9203 View Pictures Showing 5 of 77 Picture (s) From CUZECAN From CUZECAN Have you ever dealt with a high-horsepower/short wheelbase combo? This Cobra is sinister when it comes to both looks and performance. I personally would get a z06 or a Shelby since you can have a dicent track car and a good dd. Both the BDR and SPF are made in South Africa, FFR is home built and USA proud. Cobra Make, Engine: 427 manowar forged crank roller rockers . This can't be normal. When I decided to build another Cobra replica and with the aid of the internet I did a ton of research before settling on FFR. RT4B and Tremec TKX speed sensor question?